I have used Clays and it was by far the quietest but it was a brass destroyer. Faster powders tend to ruin brass with heavy bullets. One thing I can say about using pistol powders is use the slowest powder that cycles reliably. I gave this guy my load data for him to start with. I know of people using the same case to push 240 grain SMK's out of an AR. Some surplus some of my heavy hand loads. I have literally fired probably 2000+ Tokarev rounds over 2 years. Also, everything needed to build and reload for the Tokarev is cheaper, dies, brass, reamer is easier to find. The 300 Whisper would be able to push heavier bullets fast but I wasn't looking for that. The reason for the Tokarev and not the 300 Whisper you ask? Because I planned on only shooting subsonic and in that case the Tokarev has enough case capacity to do that and do it well. 308 bore so common bullets can be used.Īnd finally, in a pinch I can shoot factory or surplus ammo for CHEAP. Also, everything needed to build and reload for the Tokarev is cheaper, dies, brass, and the reamer is easier to find. The 300 Whisper would be able to push heavier bullets faster but I wasn't looking for that. The reason for the Tokarev and not the 300 Whisper? Because I planned on only shooting subsonic and in that case the Tokarev has enough case capacity to do that and do it well. My recent build has a 16" barrel so it is a little louder but still a lot quieter than a subsonic 22lr out of a pistol and 9mm out of a rifle. This was without a suppressor on my 24.5" barreled gun. Using pistol powders in a rifle length barrel I was able to get loads that were as quiet as a subsonic 22 lr out of a 16" 10/22. I use the Tokarev case to load heavy loads at subsonic velocities and fire them out of a Savage. I loaded them to subsonic levels with 150-180 grain pills. There are going to be some south Georgia hogs in a big world of hurt this fall! 458, but the advantage of 338 Spectre is that it works with a standard 9mm suppressor. I'll be waiting a little while on the suppressor for the. I've got a 10.5 inch barrel and bolt in both. I'm used to waiting for anything related to a wildcat caliber, so I figured, "okay, I'll see these barrels next year sometime." Imagine my surprise today when I got an email from buddy with my barrels, bolts and case gauges ready to ship! But, mentioned that they would be happy to put something together for me, and provided me with an email address to remind him of my order. He mentioned that with both of these calibers, they like to provide bolts as well, as headspacing can be an issue. That they were just getting ramped up on the tooling, and were working a significant backlog that Marty had when he left. I explained that I was looking for a couple of barrels, and he said they'd be happy to provide them.
I gave them a call on Tuesday of this week, and talked to Buddy. I figured at some point I'd give them a call. He transferred knowledge and equipment to Southern Ballistic Research out of Brunswick, GA. He's going to be gone for a couple of years. I'd been talking to Marty over at Teppo Jitsu about building some uppers, but then he shipped out on an overseas assignment, and production went south. I've got a couple of SBR'd lowers, that have been earmarked for some wildcats, but just hadn't come together. So I've been casually planning to put together a couple of big bore ARs for about a year.
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